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Post by Berlin Anderson on Jul 29, 2014 23:10:23 GMT -6
liking English's idea of a monthly signup thread where you pick your weeks, and it'd probably enable a longer deadline for the signups too. though the whole special-spots-for-matchwriter's-characters thing... seen that sort of thing fuel nepotism in feds.
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Post by Patrick Jones on Jul 29, 2014 23:17:55 GMT -6
Can I vote for English's idea? This would be great for those trying to set up SLs that might need them off a week or might be best served if they are in competition. Instead of requiring people to comment every week, it would only require a once a month check-in.
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Post by English/Corpse on Jul 30, 2014 9:03:24 GMT -6
liking English's idea of a monthly signup thread where you pick your weeks, and it'd probably enable a longer deadline for the signups too. though the whole special-spots-for-matchwriter's-characters thing... seen that sort of thing fuel nepotism in feds. Well the math writers need a bit of incentive. It could work of try are struggling, or in a creative lapse. Then they can still help and management can give them an opportunity. No doubt it could have negative effects but it will help people feeling rusty and stuff and insure matches are set by a deadline this insuring that we have timely results. It's not like they will get points added to rap or anything. They simply get a title shot, or a slight push or something.
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Post by English/Corpse on Jul 30, 2014 9:05:12 GMT -6
Also this advanced monthly sign up will allow for booking cards in advance tentatively for staff.
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Post by A Ghost Now on Jul 30, 2014 10:38:01 GMT -6
I vote Option 2. Though... I kinda think we should simply have a status thread. On that thread, you mark if you can't show for just that week or for a fair bit of time off, if you're going to want a match SPECIFICALLY for that week when you're on a kinda slow schedule (kinda like this thread originally wanted.), or you simply put "weekly" so you don't have to sign up every week. Not sure if that's been suggested, but meh. Could also just force people to be bi-weekly and do a shorter amount of matches a week so you don' t have to worry about the overload.
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Post by PKA on Jul 30, 2014 17:06:13 GMT -6
Starrkadian nailed it.
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Post by English/Corpse on Jul 30, 2014 20:45:20 GMT -6
liking English's idea of a monthly signup thread where you pick your weeks, and it'd probably enable a longer deadline for the signups too. though the whole special-spots-for-matchwriter's-characters thing... seen that sort of thing fuel nepotism in feds. Well the math writers need a bit of incentive. It could work of try are struggling, or in a creative lapse. Then they can still help and management can give them an opportunity. No doubt it could have negative effects but it will help people feeling rusty and stuff and insure matches are set by a deadline this insuring that we have timely results. It's not like they will get points added to rap or anything. They simply get a title shot, or a slight push or something. Wow typed this on the Iphone earlier. Let me fix this. Well the match writers need a bit of incentive. It could work for some of the people struggling, or in a creative lapse. Then they can still help contribute, and they can be rewarded. No doubt I could see how it could have nefitive effects, but it shouldn't if the incentive isn't something crazy. It could help people that feel rusty, or need a little time off but still want to help without the pressure of competition. Put these guys on a deadline when they volunteer and it should help clear up delayed results as well. It's not like they will ger thier rps graded better because they wrote a match, as that would be unfair, but at least an opportunity given or something. Then again we cut matches down we cut down writers to a reliable few anyway.
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Post by PKA on Jul 30, 2014 23:35:00 GMT -6
I'm against giving special privileges to people who write matches. Just throwing that out there.
You'll end up having awful match writers volunteering to write matches just so they can get rewarded.
I am, however, in favor of a match writer sign-up thread for each show. I don't expect anything in return for my match writing except appreciation if I did a good job.
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Post by Reya Serra on Jul 31, 2014 0:19:26 GMT -6
I'm against giving special privileges to people who write matches. Just throwing that out there. You'll end up having awful match writers volunteering to write matches just so they can get rewarded. I am, however, in favor of a match writer sign-up thread for each show. I don't expect anything in return for my match writing except appreciation if I did a good job. This.
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Post by Patrick Jones on Jul 31, 2014 10:25:07 GMT -6
I'm against giving special privileges to people who write matches. Just throwing that out there. You'll end up having awful match writers volunteering to write matches just so they can get rewarded. I am, however, in favor of a match writer sign-up thread for each show. I don't expect anything in return for my match writing except appreciation if I did a good job. This. Spot on. We RP to decide matches. We write matches to help make results as good as possible.
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Post by the Unsound Sky on Jul 31, 2014 10:32:36 GMT -6
So... read back thru this thread and tried to mash everyone's idea of the ideal system together. > Add a field to apps and existing member bios, stating 'contracted' (full-time) or 'PPA' (pay-per-appearance (part-time)). > Contracted guys should expect to be booked every week, and as such, don't need to remember to do any booking threads. > PPA guys, however, need to sign up each week in a Booking thread which goes up the day of the deadline (Monday). > Debuting guys, be they full-time or part-time, are placed in dark matches to gauge their commitment. No-shows can be placed in the Inactive list until they contact somebody to say what's up, or until management decide to boot them. Hopefully this would help out the staff in multiple ways. First, with the Contracted guys, they have a solid core of names they can book in advance each week. Then it's just a case of fleshing out the card once part-time guys start signing up. Dark matches cut down considerably on time commitments and workloads. Lastly, I'm in favour of a match limit. This is, what, a 60-120 minute show anyway? Makes it more realistic to have limits. 6 matches per Breakthrough, maybe? No more multi-man matches Just my thoughts. Love/hate? Oh hai. First of all, we actually do have a limit we've been TRYING to enforce (7 matches per Breakthrough, more for PPVs). Secondly, I actually like the idea of having it inserted into bios like that, as a one time thing rather than weekly. Obviously we'll make sure everyone is made aware that they hav to go in and edit their bios, and we'll also not only put it in our bio template, but inform newer members personally. However, I don't like dark matches. At all. But that's just a preference.
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Post by the Unsound Sky on Jul 31, 2014 10:52:04 GMT -6
Well I can name a couple who debuted this week that posted pretty good rps... and imagine having done something that good and then getting a dark match for such effort. I just think it's unfair to rpers who actually put forth a decent amount of effort, even if it is their first match in the fed. Also, we like to gauge where our newer talent is roleplaying wise, and if they know they're only getting a dark match for their debut, they're less likely to put any effort in. Either way, things go wrong. Now if both no show, do I think we should 'cancel' it, or have a dark match...? Prolly a dark match... to retain realism. But for guys who showed and rped? Meh. I kinda like a 'word limit' type deal for debut matches instead, but I'm not sure how that'd work out...
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Post by Admin on Jul 31, 2014 15:25:57 GMT -6
Now I actually dig the sound of that. Their wrestler would still be showcased and they'd still get what they deserved (Depending on how well they did with their rp), but the only difference is the match wouldn't come with all the bells of a whistles of one that is shown on television. So kinda like a house show match... with description and crowd reaction, just no commentary because it isn't technically live yet. Any match writer will tell you that nine times out of ten, the commentary and all the additional details that go into results are what slows the match progress down for them. I know if i write a match with nothing but action? Psh... It would take probably half as long to complete and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone there. It's much better than just receiving one paragraph, but also allows us to concentrate on the heart of the show while STILL giving our newer talent something better than one paragraph. Especially if they deserved better through their own efforts.
Also, to chime in on what's been discussed... I do like the part time/full time feature being added to every one's bio. To be perfectly honest? That alone would give the staff a crystal clear image of who we can give weeks off to and who we shouldn't. That alone would cut down on match excess. And that alone would speed results and the posting of a new card up because we don't have to rack our brains to figure out who gets booked where and against who each week.
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